Mitt Romney defended his belief that we "should consider a higher retirement age" for Social Security and Medicare to preserve tax breaks for corporations.

Social Security and Medicare are not paid for with corporate taxes. They are paid for with the employer and employee contributions to the Social Security & Medicare trust funds. Both funds have been projected to go bankrupt in your lifetime and before most younger citizens start getting benefits and the only ways to save both programs are to cut benefits, raise taxes and raise the retirement age. Corporate taxes have nothing to do w/ either program and are used for a completely separate part of Federal spending. If you knew anything about the Federal budget or where various tax flows went, you'd know that.

And who is the 1 person running for President who actually cut Social Security taxes and sped up the impending insolvency of Social Security? The guy you vote for and spam this site on behalf of yet you say nothing.

Stop copy and pasting from a website already, it is annoying. You can discuss things w/o copying and pasting Obama talking points off some website.

stewart, you are dumb. Please don't vote and please stop spreading misinformation.

Excellent points, Gary Johnson 2012.

I came out as decided Gary Johnson. As I was already thinking of voting for "The Libertarian Candidate" this helped me decide I will.

How dare the system indoctrinate our children with objectivity, wisdom, and otherwise education. Sounds like the manifestation of socialistic society funded with my hard earned tax payer dollars....

"Romney/Ryan have been clear about what deductions they'd eliminate to pay for a reduced tax rate"

Could you please state those?

Yes you heard correctly, and yes he meant 2124 and, yes it's correct putting pressure on the unsustainable acceleration in costs is the only way to ensure solvency. And yes, you may want to consider a long term short on bio/pharma...not that they haven't done well enough already....

The Medicare claim by Biden is a lie and you know why it is a lie? They use the Medicare cuts to pay for Obamacare already when they used the cuts to make Obamacare deficit neutral. You can't spend the same dollar twice. It either helps to pay for Medicare solvency or Obamacare but not both. So sorry to burst your bubble folks. You need to pick. Does the Medicare cuts make Medicare more solvent and drive up the deficit or does it make Obamacare deficit neutral and make Medicare go broke in 2016.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/04/23/trustees-medicare-will-go-broke-in-2016-if-you-exclude-obamacares-double-counting/

Mitt Romney boasts a record for creating private-sector jobs, but as governor, state employment grew twice as fast as the private sector.

Really? Then how was is "legal" for ObamAA+ to change Bill Clinton's Welfare Reform through "executive action" ?

President Obama Instructs Justice Department to Stop Defending Defense of Marriage Act calls Clinton-Signed Law “Unconstitutional” ...
that ok with you?

As opposed to a religious ideologue that wants nothing more than his orthodoxy to be legitimized by the presidency irrespective of the needs/benefits of the people the office serves...ya go figure...

You don't know what he would do if elected. It can't be anywhere near as bad and dangerous as the dummy we have now.

You people need to lose your little girl panties and let's deal with real issues in this country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYGsadcBiFA

Well actually Nancy, below is the complete quote. As usual, you liberals jump to conclusions. Intelligent people who would never vote for Obama are from all over the world.

A quote coming out of the Czech Republic states: “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president”.

Another

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. -- Margaret Thatcher

Intelligent

I see that one of the pictures has been removed now.

Yeah, some little whiny crybaby probably complained online about it or flagged it is inappropriate.

There are some on the Right that seem to have the attitude that lying, cheating and stealing is an acceptable behavior to get even with those they perceive have done them wrong, right down to continually voting for Bristol Palin on Dancing with the Stars.

Strange. There are now three pictures above.

People on the left think they know everything. I can't stand the condescending attitude. They're the reason I'd never vote for a democrat.

http://lightbox.time.com/2012/10/11/paul-ryan-all-pumped-up-for-his-closeup/#1

Oh no, he workouts and is healthy!!! The horror.

The photos were taken in December of last year - well before he was considered a VP candidate. Funny that they didn't run in Time until this month.

He works out and is healthy? You're telling me. I've heard he runs a marathon in under 3 hours.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/418675/september-04-2012/paul-ryan-s-marathon-time-gaffe

We are back up to the original five pictures I see.

Romney has clearly stated his positions. It's just that he has held every position possible on any given issue, sometimes changing within hours.

You mean after he took us into a meaningless war, that provided no positive benefit, and cost hundreds of billions of UNFUNDED tax payer dollars? I wonder what would have happened if he had done that as an African-American, oh wait the responsible one put the wars back "on the books". Your revisionist history of the malevolence appears to be quite in line with ideology. Did GWB get scrutinized for his citizenship? Did GWB get yelled at by members of the opposing party during State of Union speeches? Did GWB get castigated for his roots of origin?

Vote how you would like it's a beauty of democracy. However, please, don't compare the irrational, ignorant behaviors of those on the Right to philosophical differences in policy and perspective the Left purports.

Did they have to Mormon?

Facts, schmacts. Please, don't disrupt my ideology with all this intellectual stuff. Let me exist in myopic, ignorant world so as to have to not think and read. Next thing I suppose you'll tell me is that removing something like the mortgage deduction unfairly taxes the middle-upper middle income people and not so much those with multiple houses and vast wealth.

Hope you could feel my sarcasm dripping from the previous post. The article you reference was well written, clearly articulated the falacies of Mo Remoney's tax idea.

Don't worry Gary. Everyone knows REAL Conservatives hate people that know words like "myopic".

BTW, HELLOOOOO moderators or @Zak Koeske. When will someone disable the picture uploader on this thread and remove the offending and one sided content?

@BellairBerdan - As a fiscal conservative I find your post repugnant. While I believe that the republican party has lost track of its ideals: State's Rights & Fiscal austerity w/the federal government having limited powers and reach; I find that the constant lowbrow negativity directed at "conservatives" from democrats and/or liberals on this site to be hypocritically hilarious. For such an enlightened group of thinkers, you & the soccer mom (amongst others) really don't seem to have much informed input to add to these discussions. To be sure, you can regurgitate what you've read or seen on tv, but I've yet to see either of you post a coherent and well-thought out response to any point made against you. Instead you resort to platitudes, campaign literature and insult. All of which is fine and dandy if you're a robot, but let's get real - original thought and actual critical thinking, when applied to the current political situation in this country, would make it absolutely impossible to defend almost any of our currently elected officials, beginning with Obama and going all the way down to our local state representatives.

Ryan Falsely Denies Romney Plan To Raise Defense Spending $2 Trillion
Ryan claimed he and Romney do not propose to increase military spending by $2 trillion over the next 10 years

XJS, did you or did you not say this:

XJS

1:16 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012

People on the left think they know everything. I can't stand the condescending attitude. They're the reason I'd never vote for a democrat.

Yep, and having read the discourse from you people since, I stand by that statement. You condescendingly bloviate thus making it hard to take you seriously. Especially in light of the fact that you regurgitate talking points without putting forth any thoughts of your own.

XJS so you mean you don't like us because we don't lower ourselves to name calling like you so often do in your posts. I get it. You're the big thinker because you call people dumb and stupid.

People who copy and past talking points nonstop from a website to Patch are not doing any thinking.

I've only called a person stupid when they literally can't comprehend what they just read. If that doesn't fit the definition of dumb, I don't know what does.

You, on the other hand, do not add anything to the discourse other than to disparage entire blocs of the voting public. If you want to go after one particular person or point, I'd get it. But your apparent disgust at anything not liberal is astoundingly shallow and cheap.

Notice: New Jersey voter registration deadline is Tuesday

Yes XJS, calling me more names has proven you are the big thinker. Thank you for pointing that out to everyone. You did it without having to go to the dictionary to find condescending "college words" too.

XJS, for the record @stewart resmer was referring to a documented analysis provided to Bloomberg News by the Rob Me campaign. It was specific to Rob Me's discourse on the viability of providing a deficit neutral 20% tax reduction; fact of the matter is NONE of the six sources EACH of which was dissected (and discussed with the originating sources AEI, Heritage, and the Professors) and proved to just not be mathematically possible to achieve the objective of deficit nuetral unless taking away ALL meaningful deductions down to the $100K level. Now for the record if Rob Me wants to screw a family making $100K/yr by taking away $8K interest deduction on $250K mortgage, and another $22K for standard deduction for a family of 4, and another $8K for state income tax in total equating to approximately $10K (real tax benefit for individuals in the 25% tax bracket) and trade that for a $5K tax rate deduction (20% of 25%=5% or $5K on $100K) so be it; and if that $5K hit hurts people no problem. Just don't say you're not going to effect middle class families....

But don't call the observation "empty" or "condescending" neither of which it is, but simply information.

Gary- You do your analysis a disservice by calling him Rob Me. It's as lame as Obummer (and equally as silly). I don't think Romney is the answer any more than Obama is. The fact remains that both are killing the middle class slowly but surely.

I was not speaking to the points in the article. I was speaking to one specific comment made by Bellair (at first) and then moved on to his and RM's comments in general.

@Tee- you people was directed at Bellair & SoccerMom.