The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection 2011 Bear Hunt begins Monday with hunters in possession of a permit allowed to kill one black bear each.
Bears are only allowed to be hunted in specific zones, which include parts of Morris, Sussex, Warren, Somerset, Bergen and Hunterdon counties, extending to the Pennsylvania and New York borders.
The six-day hunt, which was also held last year, is designed to help the DEP regulate bear population. According to the DEP, there are about 3,400 black bears living in a 1,000-square mile area north of Route 78 and west of Route 287. The DEP said the northwest corner of the state has one of the highest black bear population densities in the country.
"We are fully committed to this comprehensive black bear management effort, which not only protects the public but also safeguards our black bear population,'' said Dave Chanda, Director of the Division of Fish and Wildlife, in a press release. "That includes a continuing need to educate people who live in bear country or enjoy recreational opportunities in bear habitat areas on methods they can employ to limit the potential for negative interactions with black bears.''
According to final DEP results from the 2010 bear hunt, West Milford hunters harvested the most bears with 54 killed. Vernon Township harvested the second most with 50 bears and Walpack Township (also in Sussex County) harvested 50. The DEP reported that statewide, 243 bears were harvested on private property, 232 were harvested on state property, 93 on federal property and 24 on county-owned or municipal land.
Hunters are required to report kills to the department and transport bears to a DEP check station by 7 p.m. the day of the kill. There, they will be given a legal possession seal.
The bear hunt is held in conjunction with the six-day firearm deer hunting season.
Do you think bears should be hunted to control population? Participate in our poll and tell us why or why not in the comments below.
apple
8:30 am on Monday, December 5, 2011
I don't have a problem with this. There are just too many black bears in Sussex Co. and it causes to much danger with the amount there is, I don't go on long walks like I did a few years ago because I had a close encounter with one on Brooklyn-Stanhope Rd.
Sunny Forrest
9:45 am on Monday, December 5, 2011
I think you can predict the answer to whether or not you are for or against hunting by who are the true animal lovers and who are not (and who have better ethics and morals).
Involved Hopatcong Mom
2:53 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Speaking as a wife and for my children, we do use the meat. It helps us out especially now when the price of heat is so high. It saves on the food budget. We have a fenced yard, and still have a problem with the bears. They ones walking in my yard have no fear of us at all. The hunt is not intended to elimate all bears, just reduce the number without the government spending extra money. It coincides with the deer hunt for specifically that reason. No extra cost for the taxpayers, as the check in points are open already.
Adam Sonzogni
9:57 am on Monday, December 5, 2011
Sunny, your statement "and who have better ethics and morals" can you please explain? I know many hunters who are respected in their communities, live all life (not just animals, they show compassion to their fellow humans as well) they typically hunt to feed their families. So I am not sure your implication that "true animal lovers" are better people holds water, BUT I am willing to hear your FACT based argument.
Also I am assuming being a "true animal lover" you eat absolutely no animal products and wear no leather, right? That you do not have any pets nor do you believe in Zoos.
Sunny Forrest
10:49 am on Monday, December 5, 2011
Adam, To answer Part B, I don't eat or wear animals, don't believe in zoos. Not sure how not having a pet would contradict my love of animals. I have a dog companion that is treated better than many treat their children.
Part A simply put - killing another life shows a fundamental lack of compassion. I also know hunters and know why they hunt. Let's be real here. They may seem respected in the community and they may feed their families with their kill (have you ever asked the wife and kids how they feel about the meat really) but they kill for sport. It is a thrill to them to kill the animal.
Adam Sonzogni
12:35 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Most animal rights activists consider owning a pet or any domestication of animals to be tantamount to slavery.
"killing another life shows a fundamental lack of compassion" So you will not euthanise your dog if he gets uncurable cancer? The point I make here is that being compassionate and hunting are not mutually exclusive. Hunting to feed your children is a prime example.
I am a hunter and I can personally say
A. I do not hunt for the thrill, please used fact backed arguments not your suppositions. I do agree some people may in fact do this, but to make a generalization as you have is not an intelligent argument.
B. My family knows what they are eating. My wife considers deer to gamey but she does not consider it any less acceptable then beef ethically or morally speaking, My children eat game meat without issue.
However, You did not answer my original question. How do you justify your statement Animal lovers "have better ethics and morals"?
LV Mom
2:12 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
@Adam: You are a big contradictor of your own words. Here you state compassion is being shown, how is that by shooting some innocent animal who you have no clue has done anything wrong? We do not shoot our pets any longer when they are lame, this is not the old west days, we take them to the vet to be euthanized humanely, and only when they are extremely sick, not because they are over crowding us. Your statement below also says you hunt and eat Deer. This blog is not about deer, it is about bear, to which I'd like you to show me statistics as you are so smart, about how much bear meat is consumed IN THIS STATE, NO WHERE ELSE! And a couple of random incidents of them breaking into peoples homes, does not warrant a massacre. And as Apple doesn't seem to connect the two, we certainly don't massacre human beings that break into peoples homes and steal when they have a mind, and this is certainly quite rampant!
Adam Sonzogni
3:45 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
@LV Mom
I don't understand how you think I am contradicting myself so I will explain more clearly. Hunting an animal to feed people is compassion towards humans.
I was not refering to "shooting a lame horse" but rather exactly what you cited, Euthanization by a Vetrinarian, I was asking Sunny to explain her position because she made an absolute statement "killing another life shows a fundamental lack of compassion." My point being that compassion, is not a cut & dried topic.
I am not sure how the fact that I hunt deer, but not bear invalidates my questions.
Your statement "to which I'd like you to show me statistics as you are so smart, about how much bear meat is consumed IN THIS STATE, NO WHERE ELSE!" I am not sure why you seem to be calling me out by saying "as you are so smart" as I am asking questions and supplying facts. That said, I do nto think I would be able to find a factual number behind how much bear meat is eaten & I did not and would not make a claim as to what is eaten in this state. I only stated that I eat everything I kill as it is a waste to do anything but that. Anecdotally speaking most hunters do the same.
My reply to this post by Sunny, was that painting hunters as unethical & amoral because you disagree does not make sense & I wanted further understanding on her position.
I see you have posted later on and I will respond appropriately.
michele MacKenzie
2:52 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
I agree with Sunny..I love all animals and do not think mans answer to everything is to kill them. I do not eat animals,(am Vegan) wear animals...No leather, furniture-shoes-belts etc..Do not believe in zoos unless it is a sanctuary for injured animals-do not buy any wool-only use the wool from my friends sheep that are her lifelong pets..do not buy cleaners, shampoos etc tested on or that have animal prod. in them. Most hunters do KILL for sport. Man thinks they can do whatever they want. Take over the earth and all living creatures habitats--the woods, rainforests, destroy the oceans...etc
Brian Satch
2:13 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Before anyone says anything, No, I'm not hippie animal rights activist nor am I a vegetarian but last year's bear hunt just saddened me. Right after the approval many people got a little gun happy and the media ate it up showing carcasses tied up in trucks. I see bears in my backyard pretty often but it's not like as soon as they see me they come murderously charging after me. Make some noise and they leave, it's that simple. If you fear your pet's safety keep them inside. If you worry about your kids WATCH THEM! And most of all "If you really care don't feed a Bear"
TP
2:14 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
I think the bears should be left alone unless they become an actual threat. I live in Sussex county and have had many Bear come through my yard. If you leave them alone they move on pretty quickly. The majority of bears that I have come accross in my yard or my neighbors seem like they are more scared of you then you are of them. I think the concerns are real with some people having fear for the children, but to just kill the Bear once a year, babies and all, is absurd. It reminds me of serial killers, they like to keep a trophy of what they have done. Thats what this Bear hunt reminds me of. I was ok with last year being they had not had one in 5 years, I wasnt happy about it but I understood it, but not every year.
Citizen1
2:36 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Wild life is wild and ALWAYS potentially dangerous. It's purely statistics... if the population of bears and humans increases in an area conflict is inevitable. We all compete for the same space and resources. If you want to wait until a pets or humans are physically harmed then I would questions ones ethics and priorities. I love bears but I don't want them to starve or injure humans and pets when they are forced to eat from our backyards...
Carol
3:27 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Please no one attack me for my opinion. See that too much on here. I just want to state my opinion. I don't think its right just like I don't think hunting deer is right. Bears are trying to live their life and for people to go out and get so excited about killing an animal is monsterous to me. I don't see how a human being could go out there and shoot and kill animals. I'm not a PETA person but I believe in treating animals of all kinds with respect. I hope one day bear hunting and deer hunting comes to an end. I understand there have been attacks and so on but helloooo they live outside what does everyone expect the bears to do build a home and live in it and wave to us and never walk around neighborhoods,etc. The hunt sickens me.
apple
5:16 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Oh come on, people are not hunting them for fun! They are hunting them for food just like they had to do in early time before supermarkets. People fended for themselfs then and they are doing it still.
FourScore
6:27 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Bull!!!! Every hunter I know does it for the sport, just as every fisherman does. They may or may not eat what they catch, but the primary motivation is the thrill. I support hunting, but don't tell me hunters do it to put food on the table, or that they're saving humanity from some grave threat. They hunt because they enjoy it.
Dan Grant
12:12 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Those who say they are hunting for food have to be joking. They spend hundreds of dollars on guns and gear which drive the price per pound way over anything that saves them money. At least be honest. They kill for the pleasure of it. It isn't about conservation it is about blood lust.
Adam Sonzogni
1:57 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
@Dan Grant
I hunt with a 30 year old shotgun that was putchased for less the $200 new. I have taken over 5000 pounds of edible meat in the last 30 years & shells are about $5.00 each and I hunt very infrequntly.
At least for me it is a cost effective measure. I believe the meat I have hunted of better quality then slaughter house meat as you can readily find in the press sstories about how chicken, pork & beef stock is raised with anti-biotics or cattle eating corn instead of grass which fattens them faster...
I do not hunt for bloodlust or "pleasure" I hunt because simply put game is cheaper and better then what is in the supermarket.
I don't consider hunting a miserable task, but I certainly would not go around saying it is fun like sports either. It is simply a chore. There are some who do this for enjoyment, but not everyone does...
I note that you have served as a Sunday school teacher, Deacon & Elder in your church I take this to mean you lead a bible based life so I remind you that public supposition on your part is a slipper slope to bearing false witness. For everyones sake, cite facts. I also remind you that several passages in the bible specifically mention and allow for hunting, for example Leviticus 17:13,14.
Alyson Music
3:58 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
As an ex-wildlife rehabilitator, I have a piece of important information that may give you some additional insight to the bear hunt. The State was paying a vet to tranquilize and tag bears before the population of bears took off (I'm talking over 13 years ago). This vet, that was working the Stokes State Forest area approached the State (DEP) and told them that the population of bears was growing and would eventually be a problem and for a little more money, he could sedate the bears a little longer and neuter them at the same time as tagging. The State was not interested in this idea. Why?? Well, they wanted the money for the hunting permit!
Don't let them fool you into thinking they didn't see this coming and didn't have a plan in mind. There is nothing worse than having an inexperienced hunter hunting this species. You think you are afraid of them now? How do you feel about a bunch of wounded bears running around!
Involved Hopatcong Mom
8:42 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
All hunters must take a bear safety course before qualifying to get a permit to hunt bear. To get any hunting permit (bow, shotgun, muzzleloader) they must complete a written and shooting course. The course was free, and the cost of the bear permit is $2.00, I seriously doubt they held back neutering for a grand total of $16,600. (they sold appx. 8,300 permits).
LV Mom
10:58 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Alyson, I agree with you, it ALWAYS comes down to someone wanting more MONEY! I knew there had to be someone out there who would be willing to do the sterilizing for a reasonable fee (GOD BLESS HIM! I hope he enjoys a long, wonderful life), and I know there has to be a lot of people willing to help with that fee if it would save these innocent animals lives! Just like the Mt. Olive group who takes the ferrill cats to PA where a vet sterilizes them for a minimal fee to keep them from over populating (also makes me furious that one of the local vets doesn't do this, so they have to travel using more dollars in gas and tolls that can be used for other things they do like putting out dog igloos so they have a warm place to sleep in the winter). There is ALWAYS a better way than killing them. I don't like hunting at all, and I know there are people who hunt for the food (deer, etc.), but this is not for survival of a human being.
Adam Sonzogni
12:40 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Alyson, can you please cite your sources. That would be far mroe compelling then simply being an interesting anecdote.
james
7:11 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Wow! An awful lot of vegetarians on here...
Frank Santagata
7:38 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
I am a hunter but I choose not to hunt bears, because I do not wish to harvest one. I love deer and bird hunting and enjoy the delicious dinners they provide. But please don’t say that hunters are cruel, mean, or don’t have a love of the land or the wildlife it provides. Without the hunters Dollars there would be more building, less land held in the public trust, no fish and game lands and certainly a lot less places for all of us to enjoy the outdoors. Stop the building …. Keep the forests for the animals and the nature lovers.
Frank Santagata
7:38 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Look at the damage deer cause in areas that are not hunted. Car damage, property damage, damage to shrubs and the spread of deer ticks. We have forests that are suffering from over grazing and some that will never recover because of the deer populations. Then we hire hunters to kill the deer at a substaitial cost to us the taxpayers. When we could let hunters harvest these same animals and pay for that right through licenses fees. But people still want to stop the deer hunt even with all this evidence staring them in the face. So again please be fair to the hunters, we are your neighbors, your friends and we have nothing to be ashamed of, we enjoy the hunt ……Dammed right we enjoy Hunting we enjoy the total experience, the friendships, the traditions and the outdoors!!!
Thanks for letting me speak my mind about this subject!!!
Frank Santagata
7:39 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
Hunters hunt because they enjoy hunting….A true statement why else would you do it???
But as for the reason there is a bear season has a very complicated answer….We keep building in their habitat then expect not to see any wildlife…..What are you thinking?? We leave food outside for cats, birds, and other animals and expect the wildlife not to take advantage of a free meal!!! We a fully the reason there is a bear hunt…..just look at the panic that ensues when a bear is seen in a neighborhood or nears individual homes. The police are called, the media is called and we make a circus of the situation. I am surprised no one has set up a concession stand to take advantage of the crowds. Instead of calling in the troops scare them …scream, use a whistle, air horn or other sound making device. This will keep the bears out of your area. The bears I have encountered looked at me with as much surprise as I looked at them. They have all turned and ran as fast as they could away from me because I scare them. Bears fear the unknown and look at us as intruders in their land.
Sunny Forrest
9:33 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
To Hookerman, Thank you for telling the truth about hunting and hunters. Hunters hunt because they like to kill animals.
Where does desire to kill animals start? If you saw a child killing an animal what would you think about the child? At what age does killing animals become acceptable?
apple
12:23 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
You people are just bashing all the hunters!! Most of these hunters are doing this to put food on the table for their familys.There may be 5% out there doing it for sport but it does not matter anyway because all of you just want to keep compaining about the bear hunt. I guess you all like the bears coming in your backyards and you like to watch them, but when you hear on the news that "little johnny and jane" were playing in the yard and a bear came and attacked them your story will change and you'll be saying why didn't someone do something to minimize the population.
james
11:42 pm on Monday, December 5, 2011
When you're old enough to get a hunting license
Sunny Forrest
10:15 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
You didn't answer the first 2 questions.
Joanne
5:53 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I was always told that bear meat was just about inedible, even if you cook it specific ways to make it more palitable, its greasy and grainy. Although I am not a hunter, nor know many, I am more afraid of a run in with a bear and my dog than anything else. And you can't possibly just keep a dog inside due to this fear, a dog has to go out when he wants or has the need. How would you know if a bear was lurking about? I wouldn't participate in a hunt, nor want to see it in action, but I think it is needed, perhaps not annually , but once they see the population grow to larger numbers.
Adam Sonzogni
1:48 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Bear meat is fairly delicious, even with no preparation just cooked over the fire like any other steak...
LV Mom
9:54 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I think it's cruel. Animals have the right to exist just like humans. I don't see any "harvesting" of people, and we have birth control options. If it's a matter of over population (which is what I understand it to be), then maybe they should be relocated, or as was stated above, for a slightly higher fee, when they are caught for tagging, have them sterilzed. I'm sure there are plenty of animal lovers out there who would be more than happy to donate a few dollars to subsidize these costs (I don't have much myself, but would be willing to do so to save an innocent animal from dying). I also don't believe you can eat their meat, so why else would people want to hunt them other than for what used to be "bear rugs" or the "sport of it?" I was also mortified when I saw on the news that they are allowed to kill cubs! This is just not right. I personally have never seen or heard of them destroying peoples homes and attacking their pets. Each time I see them, they meander away from my home without any such incidences (and I've seen a number of them on my property). This is a travesty.
apple
10:32 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Why are people comparing the bear population to human population???Or sugesting the statement of "harvesting" between animals and humans???How will serilizing the bears as they get taged help the danger they pose when they enter a area were people are trying the play or take a walk in.?I guess some of you people would like to have a 250lb. to 700lb. furry friend that can turn on you in a split second and maul you like a stick of butter.
Adam Sonzogni
12:50 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
If you are willing to relocate the animals at your expense (not tax dollars) and to guarantee they will not become a nuisance in their new home then I cannot argue with that.
If you are willing to fund sterilization at your expense (not tax dollars) and to guarantee they will not become a nuisance in their existing home then I cannot argue with that.
Bear meat is delicious, of course bears who feed on trash would taste about what you would expect. Please do not make statements you cannot cite facts about, it makes your entire argument seem less valid.
Here in NJ bears have broken into homes http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/bear_that_broke_into_vernon_ho.html
so now you have personally heard of them destroying peoples homes, a simple search would have revealed this fact to you so it seems to me your espousing emotions only and have no interest in finding the truth for yourself.
You owe it to yourself to become better informed!
Adam Sonzogni
1:51 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I had one more question. In light of your statement "Animals have the right to exist just like humans." Does this mean you also oppose all forms of state sanctioned murder of humans including the Death Penalty?
LV Mom
10:48 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Ah, the nasty people return. The danger is not the issue here Apple. The "main" reason for the "harvesting" is the population. I compared it to humans because we are allowed to continue to over populate (mostly those who cannot afford them putting the burden on the taxpayers), when we have birth control options (China has a law allowing only 1 child per family), and they don't. As I stated, I'm sorry but I don't read daily reports of people in these areas being attacked and mauled by these bears. And as I also stated, I have them in my yard, I have a young child, I have a small dog, and I keep them inside when I see them. I put up a small fence around the back yard myself at a very minimal cost so if my child or pet is out in the yard, I have time to bring them in. As was also stated above by someone, when they are right up at my window and I look at them, they just continue on their way. I have NEVER seen them attack or damage my property or anyone elses. If people would put their garbage in sealed bags and put the cans inside their garage or sheds (where I put mine), they would more than likely go elsewhere seeking food. We are invading "THEIR" territory, they are not invading ours! ANOTHER ISSUE REGARDING "HUMAN" overpopulation.
apple
11:20 am on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I think you are very inappropriate calling me nasty!!! You must be very young and naive.I have lived in this town in a more wooded area by the lake and have seen quite a bit damage that bears have done over 30 plus years here.And you still like talking about human population and birth control options. What does China have to do with America "The Home of the Free".?If you have children and pets ,you should'nt have to worry while they play out in the yard, if the bear population can be thined out to a safe level.
james
1:29 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Im a plant lover and I think vegetarians are mean!
LV Mom
1:56 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
@Apple: I am certainly not young or naive, and I have the right to my opinion as do you. Exactly what town do you live in, as this is a Patch site for all the local surrounding areas? What type of damage have you seen? In case I am not mistaken, this "Harvesting" has nothing to do with killing bears for food, it is about OVER POPULATION! That is what my referalls to China and America have to do with it. They are animals and they cannot control their population.
LV Mom
2:01 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
@Adam: Where did you read in my statement that it should be payed for by the taxpayers? I stated there are plenty of us willing to put out the money to protect them. This has everything to do with the money hungry government and nothing else, they just want the hunting permit fees. I also most certainly DO NOT OPPOSE THE DEATH PENALTY and personally don't think they use it enough! You people just don't get it. THEY ARE ANIMALS, THEY DO NOT MURDER PEOPLE LIKE HUMANS WHO HAVE MINDS AND KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG! GIVE ME A BREAK. I'd like a list of every single one of those hunters and would like to visit their homes to see how many of them are using it for meat!
Adam Sonzogni
4:06 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
two posts because it does not fit...
1 of 2
I did not, nor did I claim you did. I made that qualification because I think it is important. Truth be told if it was a donation and not compulsory and I believed the proposed solution had a reasonable chance at success I would contribute.
As to the death penalty in humans, again I am simply trying to understand your viewpoint.
Why is the death penalty a good solution?
Evidence points to the fact that we, as humans make errors as shown by http://www.innocenceproject.org/
Execution as a deterrant does not seem to be effective either
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/discussion-recent-deterrence-studies
Adam Sonzogni
4:07 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
2 of 2
I asked about the Death Penalty in the first place because you stated "Animals have the right to exist just like humans.". Which I always find to be a bit contradictory as most animal lovers hold the same position as you, I am not trying to "poke at you wiht a stick" but to truly get a better understanding of why. You said, I just don't get it, and I don't, but I am trying to see it from your side also. So your reply "THEY ARE ANIMALS, THEY DO NOT MURDER PEOPLE LIKE HUMANS WHO HAVE MINDS AND KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG! I'd like a list of every single one of those hunters and would like to visit their homes to see how many of them are using it for meat!" Is a bit of insight, you do not believe ALL the meat is being used and you think that it makes it a slaughter otherwise, which if you read what I posted is fairly much in agreement with my position. Unfortunately we have no way of knowing what truly was taken to eat, but then I only spoke of myself. I do know other hunters who also hunt for the meat, and one in particular who donates anything more then his family can use to a food kitchen.
LV Mom
2:04 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Besides, the whole issue has to do with over population. Human beings are the only life forms on the planet that have sex for any reason they can think of other than to pro-create (and gee imagine--the US is at the top of the list--at least if people are telling the truth). Animals only mate once a year, so it's not like they're running around like humans having sex every day.
Adam Sonzogni
4:16 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
@LV Mom
Actually the United States has a shrinking popultation, but I do get your point. NJ has been overbuilt and it is crowding out the bears.
But if you meant the top of the list for how often humans in the United States mate, well, I agree humans as a whole are pretty active ;) But I do not think I want to go looking to find out who is the most horny nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_growth_rate
LV Mom
2:32 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
And in case you still haven't figured out what the "Human" population has to do with, I guess I will spell it out for you: The bears are running out of habitat because the "Humans" continue to populate and take over all the land. Get it now?
apple
2:46 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I get that you like to hear youself talk alot.Peace out.
JoeyBananas
4:10 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Dolphins sport fu*k and that's a fact ...
Some animals engage in homosexual sex also ..
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Adam Sonzogni
4:17 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Oddly I did ncome across this when against my better jhudement I went looking for statistics on sexual frequency by nation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour
Sunny Forrest
5:31 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
I KNOW HOW NJ TAXPAYERS CAN SAVE A HEAP OF MONEY!!!
DIVISION OF FISH AND WILDLIFE seems like PORK that needs to be trimmed.
It is TIME for them TO GO or at least have a good house cleaning. Who wants to SAVE SOME MONEY next year?
Also I say let's make sure GOVERNOR CHRISTIE does NOT GET ELECTED to another term in office.
Sunny Forrest
5:44 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
BTW we will save the most tax dollars by getting rid of the top earners at Division of Fish and Wildlife.
Frank Santagata
7:08 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
In my earlier post I explained my position …… But I am amazed at how so many people with so few facts can make so much noise about a subject they know so little about. Learn the facts……The real facts and look at all the issues before engaging the mouth.
Hunters pay for their sport and your also for the land the preserve for you to use to bike and hike and picnic in. NO tax dollars are involved!! People do eat and enjoy Bear meat, it happens to be very tasty; you should give it a try. Governor Christy is doing a great job….Sunny and your wrong about the pork …so you are 0 for 2 in your comments. I really think that most people in here have good intentions but attacking your fellow man is not the way to solve the problem.
Sunny Forrest
10:54 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Frank, Are you a used car salesman? Because no one is buying it.
Where does the money come from for the salaries at the NJ State Division of Fish and Wildlife?
Christy is an unpopular. bully who will not have a second term. The reason he passed on running for President is because he knows he wouldn't win.
I have never seen or heard of anyone eating bear meat (that really shows how desperate you are to prove your point). At least not in civilized America.
As far as attacking your fellow man (with words), I guess you think it is better to attack scared animals with sophisticated weapons with the purpose of killing them.
james
11:02 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Just because you don't eat bear meat means nobody does?
Jake Cassan
10:12 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Yes